Assuming he’s right (and boy, being sued by apple is a huge boost to his credibility), they’re keeping the stupid camera bump thing from the air???
how do you propose removing it?
there are two options, 1) using a smaller,shittier camera, or 2) making an extremely thick phone. neither option is very “apple”, especially for a flagship model.
considering the vast majority of people use phone cases and will never notice the bump anyway, i think this whole thing is blown way out of proportion.
The marketing about it being an incredibly thin phone was a misstep - it just looked absurd to have such a chunky lump stuck onto it, and it felt very much like they were attempting a have cake / eat cake situation by claiming it had incredible camera stats (which werent very good) to justify the bump on an otherwise amazingly thin phone, and then that giant electronics bump had an external lens on it too.
Had it just been an ugly phone, I doubt it would have met with anywhere near the dame criticism, but all the adcopy about how thin it was overtop of photos where you could see it had a giant lump on it felt really dishonest, and if this article is accurate it may count among the biggest apple flops ever.
(The thickness may just need to be accepted at this point. The S25 Ultra is 8.2mm, which is thinner than the Air if you include the bump. It seems like the camera wasnt the issue then, but that they hamstrung their design team with their drive for a thin phone. What elegance might even an extra millimeter of chassis space produced?)
The marketing had nothing to do with it not selling. Pick one up, yeah it’s thin but it’s also a bar of soap to hold. Plus a ton of deal breaking trade off like less battery life and poor camera system compared to the alternative iPhone 17s/Pros.
are you talking about the Air? last time i checked all iphone models have a camera bump.
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It does not surprise me that the Air is literally the folding phone without the second screen.
It slightly does me, given that the Air was (apparently) a huge commercial flop. You’d think they’d revisit the soundly mocked design instead of recycling it, or at least change it? The renders may very well be overstating it, of course, but still it’s an odd feature to carry over.
The stupid camera bump thing they totally didn’t steal from Google
Edit: Yes, I’m totally butthurt about that guys. Fuck Tim Apple!!11
are we really going to start counting who stole what in all smartphone design.
Breakthrough technology, never seen before in the mobile market. Apple, like always, surprises the word with the latest never seen before tech that will become mainstream in the near future, thanks to apple and its affordable pricing for everyday customers.
Now just slap that 2,5-3k RRP on the device and let it sell out in.
Apple’s entire history as an org has been as a fast follower, not a first mover.
The Apple Newton is a great example of why they avoid being a first mover.
“fast” follower? Are we talking about the same apple who just released 2006’s windows Vista aero theme as a new design in 2025?
The UI lead just left the company within the last couple of months. Reports are the staff is overjoyed at that news. A lot of turnover in their leadership this past year, actually. Feels like this may be a new chapter coming up for the company. Rumor is Tim Apple may retire next year.
Oh that’s fun, maybe they will try innovation again
Apple usually prefers to do it right rather than do it first.
I mean, do they even have a case against them? It’s not like they stole the information, or signed a contract with Apple.
Also, fuck Apple, and Google, and the rest of them. If they can’t keep a lid on their “secrets”, that’s on them.
I’m focusing on the lawsuit part, because IDGAF about new phones.
I’m prone to believing that a lot of those things presented as “leaks” are actually the company in question doing it by themselves behind the curtains - because let’s face it - people want sensationalism and they won’t shut up about something like that.
Someone forgot an unreleased phone at a bar? I call bullshit.
I was actually looking at foldable phones a few weeks back, seems like 2 screens isn’t enough to make a difference, but 3 screens are. It’s either I get that or a foldable 1 screen phone (like a flip phone).
On another note, after Tim apple bribed Trump with a gold ball I’ve decided to no longer buy apple products again. And it’s kind of a big deal because I’ve had iPhones since 2008.
Buy secondhand, especially if you still want iphones. Money goes to lower class (something like Facebook marketplace has no tax), no money to “less bad” competing companies, and you’ll get a much cheaper product which still has the “appleness” you want.
It makes huge difference. I’m on Fold since Fold 4 and would never go back to a slab phone mostly because I just read books or text web/social media. The square display is perfect for this as you get proper 80-120 character lines with large font and enough space for media etc.
As if a foldable mobile was some kind of industry super secret anyway. Apple is a joke.
There are a few people that Apple would love to delete from the face of the planet.
Bloomberg’s Mark Gurman, who’s consistently divulging Apple’s plans, is one. TF International Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, who is always sharing information based on his supply chain checks, is high up on the list, too.
Apple uses Gurman for controlled leaks to build hype. He hasn’t been sued yet.
But YouTuber Jon Prosser is public enemy number one that Apple is trying to truly silence. And for good reason: the man who Apple sued in July for leaking iOS 26 and Liquid Glass keeps spoiling Apple’s unreleased products with high-quality 3D renders in his videos
Now Prosser, Apple definitely doesn’t use him for leaks since he is being sued. He’s just an idiot.
Two iPhone Airs sticked together for the price of two and a half. Great job 👏
I like the idea of a foldable phone but what I really want is a phone that folds enough to fit in my women’s pants pockets.
Wait your pants have pockets and they’re not vestigial
Most of them are. I can really only carry things in back pockets, but then it makes sitting awkward.
Or perhaps just get a pair of pants that doesn’t suck? Designing a phone around womens complete lack of self awareness seems not so good, it’s way to volatile.
I can see you don’t spent much time with women.
Women aren’t choosing pants with shitty pockets intentionally.
I’m not in the same boat and don’t claim to be.
I use a phone with a keyboard attachment and thus my phone is too large to fit many man’s trouser pockets either.
So now when I shop for trousers, I intentionally check whether my phone fits the pockets and weigh large pockets over looks.
It would be interesting if there’s at least some women’s trousers with large enough pockets. If there are and women in large numbers actually buy these and reject small-pocket trousers no matter the looks, I think that could get some traction.
If there’s really not a single pair of trousers available, even via online shopping, that has decently sized pockets, then of course that wouldn’t work.
I would guess (and this is decidedly an uneducated guess based on maybe a dozen or so women I talked with about that topic), many women do dislike small pockets, but dislike bad style, bad fit or bad looks more.
There are a few companies that go out of their way to make pants for women with pockets. Nothing at any local retailer an it sucks to buy clothes online when you can try them on, especially since women’s sizing is an absolute nightmare.
I buy men’s work out clothes so I can have pockets when I’m lounging around the house.
That’s the result of women choosing it over and over again…If women got to their senses and actually started NOT buying that junk, what do you think all the big mega corps producing tons and tons of clothes will do? Continue producing same shit clothes or adapting the factories to new, more reasonable clothes?
So we should just not wear pants until however long it takes to happen?
Or just buy the few that actually exists. Thanks to the internet, you can order from many locations, just using a small device that fits your palm. Matter of fact, these days you can place an order with your voice in many locations as well.
You’re wrong about why women’s clothes don’t have pockets. Women were never given a choice to buy clothing with pockets.
Initially, pockets were not accessible in women’s clothing due to the layers they were required to wear. After the suffragette movement when liberated women began to wear pants, designers intentionally kept pockets small to prop up the purse industry.
Handbags are one of the most profitable items in the fashion industry.
So, yeah but no…the clothes with actual pockets do exist. Spoiled female brats wont buy it though, instead complain about it.
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That is literally a Pixel Fold
Remove the outside screen and all cameras and I’d be slightly more interested.
iPhones are too locked down for the hardware they have. I’m writing this on an iPhone 15 …
The foldable I like the most I’ve seen are the Motorola razrs. That’s vertical. The best fat foldables are going to be Android because of all the video game emulators for Android
The biggest problem with these is the price. Apple wants us on a two year upgrade cycle but these phones are $1500-2000. That’s insane.
He says potentially 2000-2500 for this one.
I just bought a 1-year-old phone I really like for $120
A 5.5” screen is way too small to be worth it. If this costs more than an an iPad + iPhone Pro, this thing is gonna flop more than the Vision Pro did.
Tbh, I think that Apple makes stuff like the Vision Pro not to make money but to appear as if they have some kind of technological leadership.
They can claim that they have the best headset on the market. No need to actually sell any units.
(And of course other manufacturers could make just as nice headsets for that price point, but most other manufacturers actually need to sell units and thus they build them with realistic hardware.)
Ewwwww
