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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.mlEnglish · 13 days ago

Macron Criticizes Trump and Calls on Allies to Unite Against US

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.mlEnglish · 13 days ago
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    There’s the whole democracy thing.

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      do go on

      • https://www.newsweek.com/most-china-call-their-nation-democracy-most-us-say-america-isnt-1711176
      • https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Asia-Pacific/2021/0218/Vilified-abroad-popular-at-home-China-s-Communist-Party-at-100
      • https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-06-26/which-nations-are-democracies-some-citizens-might-disagree
      • https://web.archive.org/web/20230511041927/https://6389062.fs1.hubspotusercontent-na1.net/hubfs/6389062/Canva images/Democracy Perception Index 2023.pdf
      • https://www.tbsnews.net/world/china-more-democratic-america-say-people-98686
      • https://web.archive.org/web/20201229132410/https://en.news-front.info/2020/06/27/studies-have-shown-that-china-is-more-democratic-than-the-united-states-russia-is-nearby-and-ukraine-is-at-the-bottom/
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      In that China is one and Europe isn’t, you mean?

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      Elaborate

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          The fact Europe still hasn’t broken all ties with Israel over their human rights abuses tells me their supposed democratic values are more window dressing than anything.

          Europe is led by material interests, not democratic values.

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            Europe is led by material interests, not democratic values.

            And it’s not even their own material interest lol

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              Europe has plenty of investments in Israel and vice versa, especially military and real estate. Those investments won’t pay off if they put sanctions on Israel or break ties with them.

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                I meant Europe sabotaging itself for the USA interests since 2022. Those ties with Israel are literally zero price to pay compared to avoiding of enegry crisis, if only they weren’t captured by USA interests so much, but again, Europe is in energy crisis literally only because they are vassals of USA to begin with.

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                  I see your point, but Europe is in this crisis more because they don’t have a robust energy sector of their own. That’s what explains their interests being captured by the US on that front, because before 2022 they relied on Russia for their oil and gas.

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              But if Germany supplies Israel and cracks down kn pro Palestine speech, can you say they’re as democratic as those other countries?

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                  So you judge Europe only by the countries that suit you?

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                  Your original point is that Europe gets along with itself because of democracy. If some, like Germany, are less democratic, can you really say that?

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          You realise we have democracy in China right? Just not western style liberal democracy.

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          Europe is the lesser evil for whom? Certainly not the victims of European colonialism and imperialism.

          And when you look, you’ll see those former colonies are getting closer with Russia and China.

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          With uh…minimal due derision, this isn’t a theory that holds up to scrutiny or even makes sense internally

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          Jesus Christ. Westerners really are the most brainwashed people on earth

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