• Alphane Moon@lemmy.worldOP
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      If you owe the bank $100, that’s your problem; if you owe the bank $100 million, that’s the bank’s problem.

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        The difference between 100 million and 11.5 billion is about 11 billion. If you own a bank 11 billion that’s not only that bank’s problem, it’s the economy’s problem.

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          I was referring to the general concept behind the quote.

          I originally want to post the OG (apocryphal?) variant:

          Owe Your Banker £1,000 and You Are at His Mercy; Owe Him £1 Million and the Position Is Reversed

          But it sounds rather quaint these days.

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    I look forward to the AI bubble bursting, and billionaires looking shocked, ‘because there were no signs’

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        In contrast to the housing bubble, where a lot of the value was in overpriced houses sold to individuals, this overpricing is almost entirely in tech stocks, and tech stocks are almost entirely owned by by the wealthiest 10%, even 1%. The tech billionaires have limited ability to divest themselves of their own overpriced companies and absolutely will lose money.

        None of them are going bankrupt, they’ll all be just fine when the market recovers in a few years, because that’s the nature of capitalism. A bunch of peons, who convinced themselves that the bubble-value of their 401k meant it was safe to retire, will suffer, will have to go back to work - if you’re not an oligarch, losing money is painful.

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        Yeah all the people praying for a crash are praying for nobody to have retirement funds.

        You can easily tell who’s actually employed in this thread because anyone with a 401k is going to get dicked down while the 0.1% get a bailout.

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      A lot of them are actively talking about how it could be a bubble and the implications. No one is going to be surprised. Billionaires are just really hoping they can make it work before the bubble pops

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        Yeah… I mean billionaires have at least as much information as a random person on Lemmy :D

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    So they “lost” $11.5B? Cool, I lost 20 bucks last week and still had to explain it to my accountant 🤭 Feels like the entire AI industry is built on “don’t worry, growth will save us”, but at some point someone has to pay the electricity bill…

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      It’s magic that will magically transform the world and make everybody rich and magically do our work for us. Like in Disney’s Sorcerer’s Apprentice.

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    Wow. Glad they just converted to a for profit entity! Can’t wait for them to unleash all this success on to the the general financial market.

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    Who wants to give me a billion dollars to dig a hole and I’ll give you a billion to fill it back in and we’ll both say to investors we posted a billion dollars in revenue.

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    apparently the bubble might not be as extreme as some people think because the major AI players are all being propped up by companies that actually produce revenues and profits

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      You know if you invest all your winnings into all the companies that buy your stuff so that they can buy more of your stuff, you are actually not generating any winnings.

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        And even though NVIDIA is better place as they do produce something, but the something in play has little value out of the AI bubble.

        NVIDIA could be left holding the bag on a super increased capacity to produce something that nobody wants anymore (or at least nowhere near at the levels we have now) so they are still very much exposed.

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      The problem is that the companies that actually produce revenues and profits are also in turn being propped up by AI.