• Deacon@lemmy.world
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    19 days ago

    This would have actually been a great thing to not only acknowledge but promote if they weren’t so caught up in their own hype.

    Not that I will ever get into one of those death traps but if you tell the average consumer that any failures in autonomy immediately engage a tele-operator “to keep you moving on your way” they would probably feel better about riding.

    I’ve done tele-driving before and it’s remarkably good, even if latency is a concern.

    It’s the facade of it all, the need to seem to live up to the hype. It’s going to get more people killed.

    • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world
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      19 days ago

      any failures in autonomy immediately engage a tele-operator

      One of the problems is that these “failures in autonomy” could include a failure to engage a tele-operator when one is needed.

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      19 days ago

      I work near downtown Austin, where both Waymo and Robotaxi operate.

      Waymo cars are some of the best drivers on the road because they actuallyt ested their product, use multiple Lidar sensors instead of just cameras, and have remote driver backups for unusual situations.

      Teslas drive like maniacs and will end a ride and tell the driver to get out in the middle of a lane.

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      18 days ago

      I don’t know I trust these over most of the drivers. Hell I took a lyft last night and on the freeway we were pretty scared with the way the driver was going.

  • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world
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    19 days ago

    For anyone that is curious, Waymo actually is capable of remote moving the vehicles despite what they say. They do their best not to admit it’s possible, but it’s right in the CPUC filings as a footnote, and probably the only place they’ll ever admit it.

    https://www.cpuc.ca.gov/-/media/cpuc-website/divisions/consumer-protection-and-enforcement-division/documents/tlab/av-programs/tcp0038152a-waymo-al-0003_a1b.pdf

    In very limited circumstances such as to facilitate movement of the AV out of a freeway lane onto an adjacent shoulder, if possible, our Event Response agents are able to remotely move the Waymo AV under strict parameters, including at a very low speed over a very short distance.

    I’m not opposed or knocking that they can do this, but they are lying to or misleading people when they say it can’t be done.

  • THE_GR8_MIKE@lemmy.world
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    19 days ago

    I still have no idea how these are legally able to operate on public roads. Shit seems wild to me. Wouldn’t last 5 seconds here in Chicago, for numerous reasons lol

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    19 days ago

    This is way better than Robo Taxi convoys of 2 chase cars following one driverless vehicle. A fraction of the footprint and manpower cost of Musk’s venture.

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    19 days ago

    the same thing happened with that Amazon shop that you could apparently take anything out without checking out and it would automatically charge your account…

    turns out they had workers watching the camera footage